"Neurodiversity through Webcomics: Using Aesthetic Experiences for Epistemic Resistance"

At the heart of the ideas proposed in today's panel is that of epistemic enablement through trajectories other than propositional, which can be offered by aesthetic experience.

PANEL

"Dancing Toward Epistemic Justice: An Embodied Account of Epistemic Agency"

Amandine Catala and Camille Zimmermann covered the example of dance, an embodied account of epistemic enablement.

Camille_v2
PhD Candidate - Philosophy (UQAM)

Camille Zimmermann

zimmermann.camille@courrier.uqam.ca

Amandine_v2
Professor - Philosophy (UQAM)

Amandine Catala

catala.amandine@uqam.ca

"Comics and Epistemic Enablement"

Luc Faucher discussed the medium of comics in the context of neurodiversity, again as epistemic enablement.

Luc_v2
Professor - Philosophy (UQAM)

Luc Faucher

"Neurodiversity through Webcomics: Using Aesthetic Experiences for Epistemic Resistance"

We now continue with webcomics.

Lily_v2
PhD Candidate - Philosophy (UQAM)

Mylène Legault

legault.mylene.2@courrier.uqam.ca

Jim_v2
PhD Candidate - Philosophy (UQAM)

Jean-Nicolas Bourdon

bourdon.jean-nicolas@courrier.uqam.ca

PREFACE

About the

Format

Force of habit leads us to take the established ways of doing things as fixed, even though they are circumstantial. We were able to explore this reality, for example, during the pandemic: going to the office for work meetings, which, in all honesty, could have been e-mails. We also know that cultural habits are not insignificant, they allow the reproduction of comfortable modalities of interaction for dominant groups: those with the power to choose these modalities.

For our part of the panel, we propose to do things differently. Don't worry, we're not criticizing power point presentations and their timely sip of water pauses. Instead, we're inviting you to explore an alternative modality for interaction.

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Public Speaking

Many people hate public speaking. It generally comes with discomforts and even fears, but some people have cognitive profiles that function in ways far removed from this type of interaction. However, this practice is socially maintained and considered essential for meeting and sharing. But is it really necessary? Does the public space absolutely have to be occupied in an oratory and synchronous way? What if these modalities are, in fact, infused with neuronormativity?

Human society is permeated by collective cultural resources with which individuals can, among other things, interpret, understand and communicate various aspects of their experiences. Since they are collective resources, their genesis, maintenance and dissemination are a function of the power dynamics that permeate our societies. One of these power dynamics is organized around norms regarding what is considered appropriate cognitive functioning: the group whose cognition corresponds to the norm (i.e., neurotypicals) dominates and those whose cognition deviates from the norm (i.e., neurodivergent) are marginalized. This epistemic marginalization has the effect of limiting the access of neurodivergent individuals to so-called "collective" epistemic resources, both in their elaboration and in their use. 

This norm corresponds to neuronormativity, which is presented by Amandine Catala, Luc Faucher et Pierre Poirier (2021) in their paper Autism, epistemic injustice, and epistemic disablement: a relational account of epistemic agency. 

Neuronormativity refers to the prevalent, neurotypical set of assumptions, norms, and practices that construes neurotypicality as the sole acceptable or superior mode of cognition, and that stigmatizes attitudes, behaviors, or actions that reflect neu- roatypical modes of cognition as deviant or inferior. Neuronormative assumptions, norms, and practices uphold standards regarding, for example, (what is neurotypi- cally considered) appropriate eye contact, facial expressions, prosody, conversa- tional flow, processing, and responsiveness—all of which can be difficult for autistic individuals to understand, sense, or apply, due to neurocognitive differences. (Catala & al., 2021)

Catala, A., Faucher, L. & Poirier, P. Autism, epistemic injustice, and epistemic disablement: a relational account of epistemic agency. Synthese (2021).

For a presentation on these questions, see Epistemic justice and epistemic authority on autism, Philosophy of Psychiatry Webinar, Montreal (Amandine Catala)

What’s with all these neuro- words?

Neurodiversity can refer to the neurological or neurocognitive variation naturally present in the human population. The term was first introduced by Judy Singer in a book published in 1993. The term also refers to a growing sociopolitical movement that promotes the recognition and inclusion of natural neurocognitive diversity (see, for example, Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN), whose slogan is "Nothing About Us Without US!").

Nick Walker (2012) describes the neurodiversity movement as a new paradigm (the neurodiversity paradigm) in response to the pathology paradigm. It should be noted, however, that this movement has not been and is not immune to certain exclusionary mechanisms. For example, the movement began with verbal autistic individuals, but although the movement has since expanded to include many cognitive profiles, autistic individuals (and more recently ADHD individuals) still seem to dominate the movement.

Walker, N. (2012). Throw away the master's tools: Liberating ourselves from the pathology paradigm. Loud hands: Autistic people, speaking, 225-237.

Some progress can also be noted with the recent publication of "Neurodiversity Studies: A New Critical Paradigm" (Rosqvist et al., 2020), which illustrates the growing acceptance of this sociopolitical movement by the scientific community.

Rosqvist, H. B., Chown, N., & Stenning, A. (2020). Neurodiversity Studies: A New Critical Paradigm. Routledge.

Refers to individuals who fit the norm of cognitive functioning.

Neurodivergence belongs to a normative vocabulary. It requires a norm, which can be qualitative or quantitative, to distinguish typical from atypical neurocognitive profiles among natural neurological variation. However, the narrative is not so simple; cognition is a complex and dynamic process, and simply distinguishing between neurotypical and neuroatypical individuals shapes, at least in part, the cognition of those same individuals. Note that these criteria, quantitative or qualitative, are generally chosen for medical, practical, economic or moral reasons: because a type is considered "more functional", "more adapted, evolutionarily", "easier to interact with", "less demanding in resources" more characteristic of a human life worth living", etc.

Refers to individuals who do not fit the norm for cognitive functioning.

For those who are curious, we address these "neuro- words" here :

This is all well and good in theory, but what does it have to do with our presentation?

What we are trying to say - probably with too many words - is that those with cognitive profiles similar to ours tend to feel unsafe in traditional academic frameworks. This very presentation is the perfect opportunity to experiment with an alternative format where we can occupy the epistemic space and exist as we are. When the parameters of a common space of exchange only correspond to one type of cognitive profile, neurotypical profiles in this case, there can hardly be any exchange that is fair and inclusive. Our hope is that offering this alternative might open this type of space to those who remain outside the exchange.

Although this is an aside before we get into our main topic, you will notice that the form of our presentation reproduces our subject: the online viewing of webcomics, that is, asynchronous interactions around a shared representation, or the infamous content.

What a great question! Of course. If we have different cognitive and processing profiles with different modalities of expression, we can expect adjustments in synchronicity. Strategies for better epistemic justice include suspending judgment, giving the time, respecting varied forms of exchange and being open to different modalities of exchange.

Feel free to contact us for any comments and input into this exploration:

legault.mylene.2@courrier.uqam.ca
bourdon.jean-nicolas@courrier.uqam.ca

PART I

This is Marc, stand in for the author: Yvon Roy

This is his son, Olivier, who is autistic.

Les Petites Victoires showcases the fight of a father for his son, diagnosed with autism "in order to transform an announced defeat into small victories" (sic, our translation).

In his preface, Roy explains the contextualises the creation of his comic book:

"The idea was first suggested to me by a special educator who had worked with my son. She thought that what we had accomplished together was worth sharing so that other parents could find, through our experience, some useful information, if not a little hope" (our translation).

The story begins with the conception, birth, and then the discovery of his son by Marc. As the story progresses, he wonders

- I didn't dare mention it so as not to worry you, but I've been thinking for a while that Olivier has something... And he still hasn't said a word… (our translation)

- It’s true...

Then comes the diagnosis: "Olivier is autistic" (slide 2). We then see the father cry as his world collapses around him (slide 3).

- I perceive the extent of the inner loneliness that autism imposes on him. I tell myself that he is probably already aware of his difference and the sadness it causes us. (slide 4)

Interview

"When I started working with my boy to help him, with all the professionals in the field, I realized that often we were told, or they tried to tell us, that we had to work on living with autism, on accommodating autism. How we had to deal with different crises, different problems, whereas I thought, well, no, it's better, definitely, to try to overcome it than to live with it. And that's been kind of my master idea, let's say, for years with my boy, which is to try to push the boundaries constantly, always further." (Our translation)

Why choose this comic book?

This comic book is an example of a creation that is easily accessible to the general public that has been awarded and highly publicized - even winning an award that recognizes works written by a person living with a disability and recounting their own experience, or by a third party about the life of a relative living with a disability. In 2018, the publisher Rue de Sèvres announced a contract for a film adaptation, which caused reactions and led to the hashtag :

#boycottlespetitesvictoires

As we will show, this is an example of the social representations of autism that perpetuate dominant understandings that do not fit the lived experience of those directly concerned to the point of being discriminatory. It is also difficult to identify moments when the child (the autistic character) shows agentivity. Instead, he’s passive in his father’s story. In a way, Olivier is only a supporting character. This is exaclty why representation doesn't mean autorepresentation and why "nothing about us whitout us" matters: although this comic is presented as a positive narrative from the allist perspective (3rd person), the story is completely different from the standpoint of the autistic community’s testimonies (1st person).

An allist person is a non-autistic person.

To understand the term "allist", we must go back to the origin of the word "autistic" which comes from the Greek word "autos" which means "self". So the word "autistic" initially referred to a person withdrawn on themself, who lives in their own world. The term "allist" appeared in a satirical article to refer to non-autistic people by swaping “autos” for "allos" which refers to others. So an allist is a person who is focused on others or, to flip the usual narrative, a person who lives in other people’s worlds.

In spite of the satire, the term “allist” has remained in use among others because it allows to distinguish between "neurotypicals" and "allists". There are people who are not autistic, but who are not neurotypical: a non-autistic dyslexic person, for example.

For a deconstruction

of the problematic propositions of the comic book:

But do you know the story from the autistic community’s perspective?

This is where webcomics can serve as an accessible tool that allows the reversal of dominant representations by opening the floor to self-representations directly grounded in marginalized communities. But before continuing with the topic of webcomics, we wish to feature an excerpt from Les Petites Victoires that addresses a frequent theme in autism: eye contact.

Excerpt on eye contact

English translation
Panel 1

- Well, I promised you a little game... Are you ready?
- TV?

Panel 2

- No, no more TV for a while!

Panel 3

- Scream all you want, when you calm down, we'll play.

Panel 4

- One of the characteristics of autism is the difficulty to look in the eyes. I am convinced that this contact is essential, and that it is where everything must start.

Panel 5

- So you're calm? Let's start!
- Look me in the eyes, the eyes, the eyes...

Panel 6

- The principle is simple: if I see that he can look me in the eyes for a moment, I approach. If his eyes flee, I move back immediately. He understands the maneuver quickly.
- The eyes,
the eyes
the eyes
the eyes...

English translation
Panel 1

- Intrigued, he makes an effort, he manages to keep his eyes in mine for a second, rarely two.
- The eyes, the eyes, the eyes, the eyes...

Panel 2

- I am a good prince, I give him several chances and, finally...
- Hit the noggin!

Panel 3

Ah! Ah! Ah!

Panel 4

- The eyes, the eyes, the eyes, the eyes...

Panel 5

- Rub the nose!

Excerpt from Yvon Roy's interview

"I worked a bit like we can work to sometimes desensitize a substance. Sometimes certain people can have an allergy, we can try to desensitize them.

Several parents have contacted me regarding the trick to get the child to look in the eyes. This is the first thing we worked on together, that is to say, I considered that being able to look in the eyes - we know that autistic children have difficulty looking directly in the eyes - I said to myself, if we don't have eye contact, we have nothing.  We need that, it's the beginning of human interaction." (our translation)

TW: The host uses the term “prison” in reference to autism:

"In your story that you shared with us in Les Petites Victoires, there is obviously the moment when you get up to face, to accompany your child in that reality: to learn to understand him too, inside what he lives and this prison, in a way, from which he is pressured which is basically this condition." (our translation)

Link to the interview (in French)

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This scene is an example of neuronormativity

Recall that neuronormativity is the prevalent, neurotypical set of assumptions, norms, and practices that conceives of neurotypicality as the only acceptable or superior mode of cognition, and that stigmatizes attitudes, behaviors, or actions that reflect atypical modes of cognition as deviant or inferior.

This scene is told from the allist perspective and is presented with a positive outcome. In fact, as the author mentions, parents have applied this technique with their autistic children after being inspired by it.

But what if we ask autistic people how they feel about eye contact? That's exactly what we are going to do.

PART II

X-Ray

Why webcomics?

The medium of webcomic enables me to do something I don't know how to do otherwise: share how things feel on the inside.

Imagine. You come across a newspaper at the local coffee shop and recognize the face of a well-known personality. Yet you can't remember their name. It annoys you, you know you know it, it’s just not coming out, it stays there, on the tip of your tongue. You have time to come back to work, coffee in hand, and the name still hasn't come back to you, it still annoys you. You come across a colleague and you ask them, you describe the person, maybe clumsily at first (it would be so much easier with their name!), but you adjust to your interlocutor and, together, you can finally recall their name, it was so obvious!

It’s important to emphasize this feeling of annoyance. We rarely take the time to mention this annoyance when talking about epistemic injustices. Yet it is there, and it can even be painful: how do we make sense, to use Fricker's classic example, of our experience of sexual harassment when the concept does not yet exist? How can we share the feeling that something is wrong? This is where community comes into play and it is why the idea of "by and for" matters more than, say, a criterion of simplicity might. This is addressed by feminist epistemologies: for example, Longino argues for pragmatic values in science such as diffusion of power (as the importance of making research programs accessible to the actors involved in the research).

The impact of inadequate social representations on neurodiversity cannot be fully resolved by the traditional narrative of epistemic oppression and justice: adding new vocabulary to collective epistemic resources is not a panacea (we already have the word "autism" for example). So it is not only words that are missing, but rich and diverse lived experiences are also missing from the pool of shared resources.

The problem is that what is missing, the hermeneutical gaps, are not automatically apparent: social representations created by and for the dominant groups inadequately fill the hermeneutical gaps of marginalized groups. To that effect, let us recall here the Handi-Livre prize for the best biography which rewards works written by a person with a disability and telling his or her own experience, or by a third party on the life of a close relative with a disability: In the case of Les Petites Victoires, the award went to the biography of an allistic (non-autistic) person talking about autism. These inadequate social representations are difficult to resist: they are constantly and persistently reproduced. It is even harder when you don't have the words to replace theirs. But do we really have to wait for the right words to share our experiences? This is where illustration can become an attention grabbing action like shouting: an action that does not need words. This is what we propose here: a form of non-propositional epistemic resistance in response to hermeneutic injustice.

Webcomics are basically online comic books. They are mostly instantiated as short comics that take many forms and cover many topics. The most common form of webcomic is probably the blog (sometimes autobiographical, sometimes entirely fictional, sometimes both). Because they are mostly published independently by their artists, webcomics are an art form that is not limited by institutionalized power dynamics such as publishing houses or art galleries.

But the most important thing for us here is that webcomics are able to generate aesthetic experiences that allow viewers to better understand different aspects of the lived experience of neurodivergent people despite the inadequacy of mainstream epistemic resources.

In some ways, webcomics are a digital version of street art.

Although limited to a given geographical space for street art and to a particular digital platform for webcomics, there is this common idea where it is not so much the public that goes to the creation as the creation that goes to the public. We are no longer in a reserved and predefined space like a museum, a bookstore, a gallery or even a library.

Although a recognized artist can make street art, it is more difficult for an artist who does not belong to a complex and influential network to access some places of diffusion such as an art gallery. Webcomic is thus added to the tools that allow the production, use and transmission of more accurate social representations, participating in the collective understandings of the oppressions suffered by epistemically marginalized groups. The public and interactional aspects of social media that support webcomics make them a catalyst for direct dialogue with (but also within and between) marginalized communities.

To put our epistemic resistance into action,

and to enhance our imaginative ressources, we chose to gather first-personal testimonies and descriptions of how eye contact can feel for autists.

After all, who better to provide insight into a given lived experience than those who live it? To do so, we used social media (instagram and facebook) to ask autistic followers of our webcomic (@lilyspectrum): How does eye contact feel to you? Although we are neurodivergent, it was important for us to go with the community beyond our individual experiences. For instance, we would never have thought of the sunburn idea on our own, but once we read those testimonies, it felt right.

Both posts were made on November 8, and three days later, on November 11, we had received 175 testimonies. A few major themes emerged from these testimonies, which we used to base 7 webcomics or illustrations on. Keep in mind that, with this process, we do not claim to represent all there is to express about autists’ first-personal experience of eye contact. In fact, we suggest you visit these posts yourself to better understand the varied responses we got, and are still getting. And who knows, maybe this will allow you to add your own insight.

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Since Monday, we have started to publish these comics on our social networks and we will continue to publish them in the following days

The interactions that take place around such webcomics are, we believe, an integral part of their complete aesthetic experience. These interactions often bring about clarifications, complementary details and descriptions or even added meaning. We thus invite you to visit these posts and interact with the community.

Webcomics

"I can do it but I can’t process anything else while doing it. My natural instinct and what feels the most right is to not look at someone’s face at all"

"It was drilled into me as a "rule" of politeness. I view it as just that, a rule. It's easy when there's multiple people because I can look around. But with one person, I have to look away or I end apparently end up staring"

"Everyone insisted on it, especially when they really wanted to correct a behavior or ensure I was paying attention. I honestly still don't love it, and prefer to look at noses or eyebrows to provide the impression I'm making eye contact"

"Eye contact was enforced during my childhood in mostly abusive ways and while it taught me to fake it, that made me hate it even more. Generally it just makes me uncomfortable and I find it quite distracting but it's also one of the most tiresome things to mask."

"Eye contact feels like they're staring into my soul, but with knives. I can make short eye contact before wanting to cry."

"It takes a concerted effort except for specific people."

"I’ve been so conditioned to make eye contact with people that when I met a lot of my friends for the first time they were kinda weirded out by me unblinkingly paying attention to them when they talked like 👁👄👁"

"It feels like someone is looking right past all my defenses and directly into my head. Not very pleasant."

"Terrifiant, j'ai vraiment l'impression qu'on me transperce à chaque fois …"

"Like I am being stabbed in the brain, itchy under the scalp, or suffocating. Anxiety is anxiety. I look at people's foreheads. They never know the difference but I am not forced to juggle the pain of eye contact and try to communicate. I am mostly non verbal and eye contact guarantees no words."

"Ça me met vraiment mal à l'aise et j'ai peur qu'on puisse mal interpréter si je regarde pas "correctement", je sais pas si je dois regarder quelqu'un dans les yeux ou combien de temps, il faut surtout pas que je regarde autre chose chez lui que ses yeux et du coup je sais pas quoi faire je préfère regarder le mur derrière mon interlocuteur 😂"

"Tout dépendra de la situation, de ma fatigue et de la personne. Certains contacts peuvent être transperçants (douloureux), d'autres envoutants (confusants), d'autres destabilisants (perturbants). En tous cas, si je regarde qqn dans les yeux, je suis sûr de perdre mon fil de pensée et/ou d'accorder mes réponses à ce que la personne ressent."

"Eye contact feels like burning discomfort, especially when I'm being told to do it."

"It’s extremely hard for me to maintain eye contact, and when people express to me that I should be looking at them when I’m talking to them, it puts me under more stress than just talking to them in the first place"

"somehow being told we should be making eye contact feels like being reprimanded as a child, at least to me.. I can't count the amount of times my mother would tell me to look her in the eyes as a child, and how humiliating/stressful it felt.. I legit forget to listen to people because I'm too busy trying to maintain eye contact."

"At best, awkward and uncomfortable. At worst, like someone's stabbed me in the eyes."

"It makes me uncomfortable but my mother forces me to look people in the eyes"

"Painful, but I feel like if I don't look ill be punished or called a liar. So I trained myself to look at something over their shoulder if not their foreheads to avoid harassment."

"Habituellement je regarde plutôt la bouche ou le nez des gens et ça semble passer crème pour donner l'illusion que je regarde dans les yeux (j'ai eu droit à l'expert en haute potentialité qui me disait que c'était impossible que je sois autiste car.. je le regardais dans les yeux ! Je regardais sa bouche depuis le début de l'entretien..). Je ne me force au contact visuel que de manière consciente et dans de rares cas précis :  [suite]

(suite) par exemple si je suis attiré romantiquement par quelqu'un et désire que cette personne le perçoive (vu que le contact visuel accru est interprété de cette façon par beaucoup de neurotypiques). Mais cela reste un sacré effort et en général je détourne les yeux très rapidement, ça me met mal à l'aise, c'en est presque physique. Récemment un de nos profs en cours nous a fait faire une série d'exercices où on devait marcher vers quelqu'un/revenir à sa place à reculons en gardant le contact visuel constant avec cette personne.. je vous laisse deviner la torture que c'était"

"Transperçant!"

"J'ai l'impression que les yeux de la personne me percent à l'intérieur, je sais pas comment dire, c'est une sensation d'oppression aiguë."

20-EC-ArmyDrill

"For me, looking in the eyes feels too exposed and open. It makes me feel like I can't hide and protect myself from the people."

"Eye contact makes me uncomfortable most of the time, because of the feeling that I am being silently judged or getting talked about negatively."

"It's fine when I'm listening to someone but when I'm the one talking it makes me get stage fright like I'm being put on the spot to judge for performance lol"

"Too intimate, inappropriate… I become incredibly self conscious as well, like am I doing eye contact right? Should I be mirroring their behavior or a close approximation or complete opposite? How many times should I blink? Can they tell I’m faking this human interaction? It’s incredibly stressful."

"It feels like something is a required check box. It’s like a math problem. Look, one, two, three. Okay. Look away. Zone out if you need to. Okay, it’s been 10ish seconds. Look back. One, two, three.. okay, look away! Don’t share at them! Wait! You’ve looked away too long! Look back! …..it’s that on repeat quite often lol"

"I hate it I get so nervous and then I break down."

"I don't like it, makes me really uncomfortable. I'm "good at it", because I mask well (😬). I never know what to do, if I'm looking to much or not enough and always use a whole lot of energy just on eye contact. Generally, the more comfortable I feel the less I look someone in the eyes. (Also eyes as a body part make me feel really icky so that's that)."

"Intimidating and uncomfortable, I feel too vulnerable and keep thinking am I doing this right?"

"Ça me met vraiment mal à l'aise et j'ai peur qu'on puisse mal interpréter si je regarde pas "correctement", je sais pas si je dois regarder quelqu'un dans les yeux ou combien de temps, il faut surtout pas que je regarde autre chose chez lui que ses yeux et du coup je sais pas quoi faire je préfère regarder le mur derrière mon interlocuteur 😂"

"Eh bien, quand j’étais petit, je parlais et écoutais souvent le monde sans les regarder dans les yeux. Maintenant, ça me dérange pas de parler et écouter avec le contact visuel, mais j’peux très bien comprendre ce que le monde me dit sans obligatoirement les regarder dans les yeux. Aussi, c’est vrai que ça me rend un peu mal à l’aise quand des inconnus me fixe du regard. C’est comme s’ils me jugeaient et j’sais pas ce que j’ai fait de mal."

"Direct eye contact feels like I am being judged. It also makes me feel uncomfortable because I become unable to perceive and read the rest of their body language."

"Démunie, nue. Percée à jour. C’est très fort comme sensation, et rarement agréable. J’y arrive avec mes enfants ou mon mari, mais même dans ce cas, pas trop longtemps. Si je veux tenir une conversation, et me concentrer, alors je dois ruser. Je regarde entre les deux yeux ou le plus souvent la bouche."

"Feel nausea and anxiety, and extremely naked. Yet my mother was adamant that I learned it and therefore I am able to do it, despite the uncomfortable feelings. Absolutely love your work, for once I can tell that I am not alone"

"I feel instant stress and I have to force myself to do it and to look "natural"."

"Honestly, each time it happens to me, the most awkward feeling I have is « where should I look exactly » ? When you make eye contact, are you expected to focus one eye specifically (which one, then ?), between the eyes, not focus at all, or try a weird way of having each eye "looking" into the facing one (i.e. my left eye "looking at" their right one and vice-versa) ? I'm also never sure if/when eye contact is expected, and when it happens, is there/what is the hidden message behind this specific contact, and/or am I sending an incorrect hidden message myself ? Then, with all these questions actively consuming my brain "computing power", everything else totally miss the point (sometimes, though, I can hide this issue because I have this kind of ability to "replay" the last few words/sentence I unconsciously heard, to process it with a delay but potentially without the proper context- so it's not reliable at all !!).
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"Weird and artificial. I can actually read people's eyes now, but it took me years to learn it."

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"My parents rasied me to always look into the eyes, still feels wrong. Like, I am invaiding a personal space and being rude. Like trying to stare down their soul and violating their privacy. I still try to look at people in the eyes but have learned to just looks in differents points in the face so I don't seem rude."

"Eye contact feels too intimate to me for most interactions. If I make eye contact with you, it’s because it’s important.
"

"Eye contact feels very intimate. If I’m forced to hold it for too long, I feel violated, like I’ve been touched without consent."

"I really hate eye contact in almost all circumstances. About the only exception is with someone I'm very intimate with. Eye contact feels extremely intimate to me in general so it only feels natural when it's with someone I've got a suitably intimate emotional connection to. Otherwise it feels like I'm staring into someone's soul and I can see everything and they're staring into mine and seeing the same (even if I know they're not)."

"Invasive, extremely personal. I'm only comfortable looking my husband in the eyes"

"It feels like I’m standing too close to someone, I don’t know if that’s too vague of a comparison but it feels way too intimate. So I only do it when necessary or when I’m comfortable with that person."

"It feels creepy to me"

"I don't like it, makes me really uncomfortable. I'm "good at it", because I mask well (😬). I never know what to do, if I'm looking to much or not enough and always use a whole lot of energy just on eye contact. Generally, the more comfortable I feel the less I look someone in the eyes. (Also eyes as a body part make me feel really icky so that's that)."

"I hate eye contact. It almost hurts. But it’s nessesary to have a successful professional life, and my parents trained me well as a child. They would ask me people’s eye color after I met them to see if I made eye contact. Being trained like that at a very young age was incredibly difficult and felt unfair, but I’m very grateful that they pushed me now that I’m an adult."

"I can't do it, it makes me feel funny in a bad way and makes me feel kind of .. unsafe? and uncomfy I don't exactly know the word for the first one, I don't mind people looking at me but I won't look back"

"It's incredibly intimate and overwhelmingly so, particularly with strangers. And the more my emotions are revved up, the less I can tolerate it. It genuinely feels as though someone can see into my mind almost, even though I know that they can't. On the plus side, when I'm with someone I deeply, deeply love, sometimes that's okay because I want them to see how much I love them... but then that tends to make THEM feel awkward and uncomfortable too. LOL For me, it falls into the same category as standing too close, invading personal space, touching someone without consent etc. It's intimate, and can very easily become violating when you don't want it. And that;s so hard to explain to NT folk who expect you to look them in the eye all the time."

"It's okay with people I know, but I don't feel comfortable with eye contact with strangers, it almost feels like an invasion of privacy."

"eye contact feels so weird and creepy and if i have to make eye contact with someone, then ill quickly feel exhausted."

"It feels like a boundary rupture unless I completely and totally feel comfortable in a container of safety with another it probably won’t happen much."

"Well... I can't let anyone touch my eyeballs."

"Trop intrusif. Comme si l autre avait la perception de mes pensées. C est comme se montrer nue."

"Intense/ overwhelming/ fiery/ intrusive. Sometimes painful/ always difficult with strangers. Ok with intimate friends and family."

"Démunie, nue. Percée à jour. C’est très fort comme sensation, et rarement agréable. J’y arrive avec mes enfants ou mon mari, mais même dans ce cas, pas trop longtemps. Si je veux tenir une conversation, et me concentrer, alors je dois ruser. Je regarde entre les deux yeux ou le plus souvent la bouche."

"Feel nausea and anxiety, and extremely naked. Yet my mother was adamant that I learned it and therefore I am able to do it, despite the uncomfortable feelings. Absolutely love your work, for once I can tell that I am not alone"

"confronting and very intimate ..i feel naked"

"Quelque chose d'extrêmement intime, que je ne peux pas partager avec n'importe qui sinon je suis déstabilisée car je bloque sur cette sensation d'intimité forcée. Depuis le diagnostic, je me permets de ne plus regarder le visage des gens (je ne travaille pas). Quel soulagement!"

22-EC-Creepy

"Eye contact feels like they're staring into my soul, but with knives. I can make short eye contact before wanting to cry."

"It’s like being asked to look directly at the sun. I flinch, I can’t do it…"

"It feels like they gonna shoot me with laserbeams. Like Cyclops from X-Men. I van handle it for 10 seconds. I get panick attacks of it's to long. Even with my bf makes me on edge. I got a major panic attack during a being social etc exam (idk how it's in English is). It was so bad. They let me past because otherwise i needed to do the whole year over."

"Feels like I’m staring at the sun and I can only look a person in the eyes for 30 seconds or so before my eyes start to hurt a bit. I can only look animals in the eye."

"Like flames of intense awkwardness are scorching my retinas."

"When I was younger I always had trouble making eye contact. I’ve gotten better at it in recent years but its still painful to me."

"Eye contact feels like burning discomfort, especially when I'm being told to do it."

"Ça me demande beaucoup de concentration. J'ai l'impression que ça me fait mal aux yeux et quand j'étais plus jeune je pouvais même ne plus vraiment entendre ce que la personne me disait. Par contre ce n'est plus un problème quand je me mets vraiment en colère au point de vouloir me battre."

"Ca va de la gêne à la sensation de brûlure, ça dépend des personnes je suppose. On peut parfaitement regarder le nez, la bouche, entre les yeux sans que l'autre ne sen rende compte."

24-EC-Sunburn

"I can’t think if I have to. Feels like pressure."

"Bad, I feel like my head is going to explode if I look at someone's eyes for too long. I suspect it's probably a blood pressure drop or adrenaline, but it feels awful. I honestly don't get why so many people require eye contact when speaking. I can make eye contact, but it's really difficult to understand what the person is saying because I'm too focused on how uncomfortable I feel and how incredibly awkward it is to stare at someone's eyes"

"It feels literally painful and I’m always afraid the other person can tell what I’m feeling/thinking. I’m comfortable with eye contact with very trusted folks in my life though."

"Painful"

25-EC-Pressure

"I really hate eye contact in almost all circumstances. About the only exception is with someone I'm very intimate with. Eye contact feels extremely intimate to me in general so it only feels natural when it's with someone I've got a suitably intimate emotional connection to. Otherwise it feels like I'm staring into someone's soul and I can see everything and they're staring into mine and seeing the same (even if I know they're not)."

"I cant make eye contact with literally anyone. Its uncomfortable, and even when its not, i cant listen proberly to what people are saying when i focus on the eyes. I just cant do it at anytime with anyone, only for one second maximum. Its like staring into someone's soul, its too much."

"J’ai l’impression d’être absorbée par les yeux de la personne et en même temps comme si on pouvait voir ce qu’il y a à l’intérieur de moi."

"honestly it feels like i am being sucked into their soul… i can’t maintain it if i want a conversation because i just get lost"

"Like someone staring at my soul? I almost feel like that's the part of masking that exhausts me the most!"

"It's uncomfortable. But sometimes if I want to intimidate someone I stare deep into their eyes and make them feel unnerved like I'm looking into their soul."

"Tout dépendra de la situation, de ma fatigue et de la personne. Certains contacts peuvent être transperçants (douloureux), d'autres envoutants (confusants), d'autres destabilisants (perturbants). En tous cas, si je regarde qqn dans les yeux, je suis sûr de perdre mon fil de pensée et/ou d'accorder mes réponses à ce que la personne ressent."

"Trop intrusif. Comme si l autre avait la perception de mes pensées. C est comme se montrer nue."

"J’ai l’impression d’entrer dans l’âme de la personne. Je trouve ça trop privé. Alors je ne regarde que ceux dont j’ai vraiment envie de découvrir ce qu’il y a au plus profond d’eux même"

26-EC-Vampiric

"I'm okay with it for small periods of time, but if it's more than a minute, I have to look away, it makes me super uncomfortable after that"

"It took me around 2 years to be able to do eye contact (kind of struggle still-) but normally if im uncomfortable looking at the eyes, ill just look at the nose instead"

"Awkward. The longest I can probably do it is for a few seconds, but sometimes it’s physically impossible for me to look someone in the eyes even for one second."

"Ça me met juste très mal à l’aise, et du coup je préfère regarder ailleurs et ne regarde les gens dans les yeux s’iels ne me regardent pas."

"Incapable de soutenir un eye contact sauf avec certaine personnes... Ma famille (ma mere, mon pere, ma soeur), ma nièce, mon beau frère et mon conjoint. Quelques amis specifique aussi... Mais sinon incapable. Je chercher tjrs a "évader" ses eye contact."

"Uncomfortable. I have trouble maintaining eye contact for long, especially in a conversation. However, I did figure out that talking with your hands is a great way to distract the other person's eyes from your and gives you a reason not to look at them."

"havent made eye contact with anyone (while i'm talking to them, that is) except my cats in years if that tells you anyone"

"When I was younger, it used to feel like when you held two magnets together both ends the same, it felt like no matter how hard you held them together, it would want to repel forcefully, my head wanted to repel and look past to the left or right or down or up like a magnet would, and when I managed to hold it against that feeling, my eyes would water up, not tears from sadness or anything, but they released tears, now I can manage it but it's still not comfortable to do, it depends on how comfortable I feel with the person or people or how stimulated I feel in an environment"

"It’s like when you hold two magnets with the same polarity against each other. Even if you want to put them together they won’t do it. The magnets are like my eyes. They just can’t center on the other persons eyes or it will cost a lot of energy. Like with holding magnets with the same polarity together. It’s just all in all very uncomfortable and draining. Btw I’m undiagnosed so I hope I can still answer here. Also I really really love your account and the stuff you do ^^ /g"

"Ça me met vraiment mal à l'aise et j'ai peur qu'on puisse mal interpréter si je regarde pas "correctement", je sais pas si je dois regarder quelqu'un dans les yeux ou combien de temps, il faut surtout pas que je regarde autre chose chez lui que ses yeux et du coup je sais pas quoi faire je préfère regarder le mur derrière mon interlocuteur 😂"

"Je me sens obligé de regarder chaque personne dans les yeux mais aussitôt que le contact est réciproque je baisse le regard aussi vite que mon ombre ainsi j'ai l'impression que j'ai fait ma part! haha! Par contre avec le monde avec qui je suis très, très à l'aise je vais quelque fois fixer les yeux, on dirait que j'essaie de comprendre pourquoi je fuis ceux des inconnus, alors je fixe en grand questionnement interne!"

"Awkward and physically painful , strong need to move my eyes away from it"

"Souvent trop intense… Et en plus il se passe tellement de choses autour des yeux qui m'intéressent plus et/ou me sécurisent plus! Je fixe puis je zappe, j'y reviens et je rezappe… Les sourcils, les lunettes, sont des bons compromis aussi, ou fixer mon regard dans le vague direction le visage ou le pourtour du visage… Ou fixer le visage avec une attitude très intéressée (posture corporelle de l'attention soutenue) quand la personne regarde AILLEURS, et quand son regard se tourne vers moi, fixer 1s seconde, sourire, et me tourner ailleurs vers qqn d'autre qui parle mais ne regarde pas vers moi à ce moment là, ou trouver à m'occuper avec un objet, et jongler comme ça."

"Je n'aime pas regarder sans les yeux, je ne sais pas, c'est plus fort que moi, je suis mal à l'aise, je ressens le besoin de regarder ailleurs. Du coup j'aime bien discuter quand je suis au resto ou quand on fait une activité, il y a l'excuse d'être occupée en même temps pour ne pas se regarder"

"Habituellement je regarde plutôt la bouche ou le nez des gens et ça semble passer crème pour donner l'illusion que je regarde dans les yeux (j'ai eu droit à l'expert en haute potentialité qui me disait que c'était impossible que je sois autiste car.. je le regardais dans les yeux ! Je regardais sa bouche depuis le début de l'entretien..). Je ne me force au contact visuel que de manière consciente et dans de rares cas précis : par exemple si je suis attiré romantiquement par quelqu'un et désire que cette personne le perçoive (vu que le contact visuel accru est interprété de cette façon par beaucoup de neurotypiques). Mais cela reste un sacré effort et en général je détourne les yeux très rapidement, ça me met mal à l'aise, c'en est presque physique. Récemment un de nos profs en cours nous a fait faire une série d'exercices où on devait marcher vers quelqu'un/revenir à sa place à reculons en gardant le contact visuel constant avec cette personne.. je vous laisse deviner la torture que c'était"

"Lorsque c'est quelqu'un avec qui je suis à l'aise ca va à une certaine distance mais de trop prêt je ressens un malaise assez vite. Si j'ai le malheur de croisé le regard avec un(e) inconnu(e) dans la rue ou dans un commerce, je regarde ailleurs aussitôt, gros malaise. C'est pour ça que j'évite de regarder les gens."

27-EC-Polarised

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  13. 카지노솔루션
    짜릿한 승리의 시작, 카지노 솔루션의 모든 것!

    짜릿한 승리의 시작, 카지노 솔루션의 모든 것!

    여러분, 혹시 온라인 카지노 사업을 꿈꿔본 적 있으신가요? 아니면 이미 운영 중인데 더 나은 솔루션을 찾고 계신가요? 그렇다면 오늘 저희가 들려드릴 이야기에 귀 기울여 주세요. 바로 카지노솔루션에 대한 모든 것입니다!

    카지노솔루션은 단순히 게임만 제공하는 것을 넘어, 온라인 카지노 운영에 필요한 모든 기술적 기반을 제공하는 통합 플랫폼을 의미합니다. 웹사이트 구축부터 게임 콘텐츠, 결제 시스템, 보안, 고객 관리까지, 이 모든 것을 한 번에 해결해주는 마법 같은 존재죠. 저희는 오늘 이 카지노솔루션이 무엇인지, 어떤 기능을 가지고 있는지, 그리고 어떻게 하면 성공적인 사업을 이끌 수 있는지 자세히 알아볼 거예요. 온라인 카지노의 세계로 떠날 준비가 되셨나요?

    꿈의 온라인 카지노를 현실로: 솔루션의 핵심 기능

    성공적인 온라인 카지노를 구축하기 위해서는 강력하고 안정적인 카지노솔루션이 필수적입니다. 과연 어떤 핵심 기능들이 우리의 꿈을 현실로 만들어줄까요?

    1. 다양한 게임 콘텐츠

    카지노솔루션의 가장 중요한 기능 중 하나는 바로 다양한 게임 콘텐츠 제공입니다. 플레이어들이 지루할 틈 없이 즐길 수 있도록 슬롯, 바카라, 블랙잭, 룰렛, 포커 등 수많은 게임을 보유해야 합니다.

    슬롯 게임: 수백 가지의 테마와 기능을 가진 슬롯 게임은 플레이어들에게 끊임없는 재미를 선사합니다.

    테이블 게임: 바카라, 블랙잭, 룰렛 등 전통적인 카지노 게임은 실제 카지노와 같은 현장감을 제공합니다.

    라이브 카지노: 실제 딜러와 실시간으로 소통하며 게임을 즐길 수 있는 라이브 카지노는 현장감과 몰입도를 극대화합니다.

    스포츠 베팅: 스포츠 경기에 베팅하는 기능은 또 다른 재미를 제공하며, 폭넓은 고객층을 유치할 수 있습니다.

    2. 안정적인 결제 시스템

    온라인 카지노에서 결제 시스템은 고객의 신뢰와 직결됩니다. 빠르고 안전하며 다양한 결제 수단을 지원하는 것이 중요하죠.

    다양한 결제 수단: 신용카드, 계좌 이체, 전자지갑, 암호화폐 등 다양한 결제 옵션을 제공해야 합니다.

    빠른 입출금: 신속한 입출금 처리는 고객 만족도를 높이는 핵심 요소입니다.

    강력한 보안: 모든 금융 거래는 최고 수준의 암호화 및 보안 시스템으로 보호되어야 합니다.

    3. 강력한 보안 및 공정성

    온라인 카지노 사업에서 보안과 공정성은 무엇보다 중요합니다. 플레이어들이 안심하고 게임을 즐길 수 있도록 철저한 대비가 필요합니다.

    데이터 암호화: 개인 정보 및 금융 거래 정보를 암호화하여 외부 위협으로부터 보호합니다.

    난수 생성기(RNG): 게임 결과의 무작위성과 공정성을 보장하기 위해 인증된 난수 생성기를 사용합니다.

    DDos 공격 방어: 분산 서비스 거부(DDoS) 공격으로부터 서버를 보호하여 서비스 중단을 방지합니다.

    4. 사용자 친화적인 인터페이스

    아무리 좋은 기능이 많더라도 사용하기 어렵다면 소용이 없겠죠? 직관적이고 사용자 친화적인 인터페이스는 플레이어들이 사이트에 오래 머무르게 하는 중요한 요소입니다.

    반응형 웹 디자인: PC, 모바일, 태블릿 등 어떤 기기에서도 최적화된 화면을 제공해야 합니다.

    직관적인 메뉴 구성: 플레이어들이 원하는 게임이나 기능을 쉽게 찾을 수 있도록 명확하고 간결한 메뉴 구성을 갖춰야 합니다.

    다국어 지원: 다양한 국가의 플레이어들을 위해 여러 언어를 지원하는 것이 좋습니다.

    성공적인 카지노 사업을 위한 솔루션 선택 가이드

    수많은 카지노솔루션 공급업체 중에서 어떤 곳을 선택해야 할까요? 성공적인 사업을 위한 현명한 선택 기준을 알려드릴게요.

    1. 신뢰할 수 있는 공급업체 선정

    가장 먼저 고려해야 할 것은 공급업체의 신뢰성입니다.

    경험과 명성: 오랜 경험과 좋은 평판을 가진 업체는 안정적인 서비스를 제공할 가능성이 높습니다.

    라이선스 및 규제: 합법적인 라이선스를 보유하고 관련 규제를 준수하는지 확인해야 합니다.

    포트폴리오: 해당 업체가 구축한 다른 카지노 사이트들을 확인하여 실제 운영 능력을 가늠해볼 수 있습니다.

    2. 확장성과 유연성

    사업이 성장함에 따라 카지노솔루션도 함께 성장할 수 있어야 합니다.

    확장성: 사용자 증가에 따른 트래픽 증가를 원활하게 처리할 수 있는 인프라를 갖추고 있는지 확인합니다.

    맞춤형 개발: 사업자의 요구사항에 맞춰 기능 추가나 커스터마이징이 가능한지 여부를 확인해야 합니다.

    새로운 기술 도입: VR, AI 등 새로운 기술을 솔루션에 통합할 수 있는 유연성을 갖추고 있는지 고려합니다.

    3. 기술 지원 및 유지보수

    카지노솔루션은 기술적인 부분이 많기 때문에 전문적인 기술 지원이 매우 중요합니다.

    24/7 고객 지원: 문제 발생 시 언제든지 도움을 받을 수 있는 24시간 연중무휴 기술 지원이 필수적입니다.

    정기적인 업데이트: 보안 취약점 패치, 기능 개선 등을 위한 정기적인 업데이트가 제공되는지 확인합니다.

    문제 해결 능력: 발생 가능한 기술적 문제에 대해 얼마나 신속하고 효과적으로 대응하는지 평가해야 합니다.

    평가 항목중요도고려 사항공급업체 신뢰성높음경험, 명성, 라이선스, 포트폴리오게임 다양성높음슬롯, 테이블, 라이브 카지노, 스포츠 베팅 등결제 시스템높음다양한 결제 수단, 빠른 입출금, 강력한 보안보안 및 공정성높음데이터 암호화, RNG 인증, DDoS 방어기술 지원높음24/7 지원, 정기 업데이트, 문제 해결 능력확장성중간사용자 증가 대비, 맞춤형 개발 가능 여부사용자 인터페이스중간직관성, 반응형 디자인, 다국어 지원비용 효율성중간초기 투자 비용, 유지보수 비용, 라이선스 비용 등 총체적 고려

    카지노 솔루션, 이것이 궁금해요! (FAQ)

    많은 분들이 카지노솔루션에 대해 궁금해하는 질문들을 모아봤습니다.

    Q1: 카지노솔루션 구축 비용은 어느 정도인가요?

    A1: 카지노솔루션 구축 비용은 솔루션의 종류, 기능의 복잡성, 게임 콘텐츠의 양, 커스터마이징 정도, 그리고 공급업체에 따라 크게 달라집니다. 일반적으로 수천만 원에서 수억 원 이상까지 다양할 수 있습니다. 초기 투자 비용 외에도 월별 유지보수 비용, 게임 라이선스 비용 등을 고려해야 합니다.

    Q2: 솔루션 구축 기간은 얼마나 걸리나요?

    A2: 솔루션 구축 기간 역시 프로젝트의 규모와 복잡성에 따라 다르지만, 일반적으로 1개월에서 3개월 정도 소요됩니다. 기본적인 솔루션은 더 빨리 구축될 수도 있지만, 맞춤형 기능 개발이나 복잡한 통합 작업이 필요한 경우에는 더 오랜 시간이 걸릴 수 있습니다.

    Q3: 불법적인 요소는 없나요?

    A3: 합법적인 카지노솔루션 공급업체는 해당 국가 및 국제적인 규제를 준수하며 라이선스를 보유하고 있습니다. 그러나 온라인 카지노 운영 자체는 국가별로 법규가 다르므로, 사업을 시작하기 전에 반드시 해당 국가의 법률을 면밀히 검토하고 합법적인 범위 내에서 운영해야 합니다. 불법적인 솔루션은 막대한 법적 위험을 초래할 수 있습니다.

    Q4: 모바일 지원은 필수인가요?

    A4: 네, 모바일 지원은 이제 필수적인 요소입니다. 현대 사회에서 스마트폰을 통한 인터넷 사용은 압도적으로 높습니다. 모바일 친화적인 카지노솔루션은 더 많은 플레이어를 유치하고 사용자 경험을 향상시키는 데 결정적인 역할을 합니다. 반응형 웹 디자인이나 전용 모바일 앱 제공 등을 통해 모바일 환경에서도 최적의 플레이를 지원해야 합니다.

    Q5: 솔루션 선택 시 가장 중요한 점은 무엇인가요?

    A5: 가장 중요한 점은 바로 신뢰할 수 있는 파트너를 선택하는 것입니다. 솔루션의 기술력, 안정성, 보안, 그리고 사후 지원까지 모든 면에서 믿을 수 있는 업체를 선택해야 장기적으로 성공적인 사업을 운영할 수 있습니다. “성공적인 온라인 카지노의 핵심은 기술력과 신뢰성에 있습니다. 좋은 카지노솔루션은 사업의 든든한 기반이 될 것입니다.” 라고 업계 전문가는 조언합니다.

    미래를 열어갈 카지노 솔루션: 당신의 성공 파트너

    오늘 저희는 카지노솔루션의 세계를 함께 탐험해 보았습니다. 단순한 게임 플랫폼을 넘어, 안정적인 운영과 성공적인 사업을 위한 필수적인 기반임을 알 수 있었죠. 꿈꾸던 온라인 카지노 사업을 현실로 만들고 싶다면, 강력하고 신뢰할 수 있는 카지노솔루션을 선택하는 것이 무엇보다 중요합니다.

    미래의 온라인 카지노 시장은 더욱 빠르게 변화하고 발전할 것입니다. 새로운 기술의 도입, 사용자 경험의 혁신, 그리고 더욱 강력한 보안이 요구될 거예요. 이러한 변화에 발맞춰 지속적으로 발전하는 카지노솔루션이야말로 여러분의 성공적인 비즈니스를 위한 최고의 파트너가 될 것입니다. 저희는 여러분이 현명한 선택을 통해 짜릿한 성공의 길을 걷기를 진심으로 응원합니다!

  14. В этой публикации мы предложим ряд рекомендаций по избавлению от зависимостей и успешному восстановлению. Мы обсудим методы привлечения поддержки и важность самосознания. Эти советы помогут людям вернуться к нормальной жизни и стать на путь выздоровления.
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  15. Эта публикация содержит ценные советы и рекомендации по избавлению от зависимости. Мы обсуждаем различные стратегии, которые могут помочь в процессе выздоровления и важность обращения за помощью. Читатели смогут использовать полученные знания для улучшения своего состояния.
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